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Old Dec 21, 2010, 04:50 AM // 04:50   #21
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how do you get 55 seconds? The dialogues alone at the beginning take 30-40 seconds, how can u get the reward/change dists in 15-25 seconds?
One necro (me), One ranger (PUG). Pick a district to meet up in. Make sure someone starts the quest the second they accept the quest (the person that picks up the quest second). I let the ranger do this, I was the designated party maker since I loaded first every time.

Use X - R (to run in the direction of energy team). Position near Roland. Hit V for target nearest ally.

Wait for the exact second they turn red, then explode 50% HP for 50 damage on 5-6 targets + 10 degen for 30 seconds. Ice fort --> snowball spam on carlise and roland (1). "Mmm, snowcone!" the second Ice fort goes down.

Ranger should spam Flurry.

The second the ranger kills the last mob, you want to zone to active district. After that, switch to district you are meeting in, get quest, add 2nd person and enter. It is a good idea to have the person with the faster connection to add the other one. (I ctrl+ V the person's name so that made it quicker).

I timed it by taking a few runs with someone I had been running with for 30+ runs, divided by time for all of them. It's doable in 20 seconds after aggro if you ball good enough. Changing districts took me about 5-10 seconds max and usually it was waiting for the Ranger. M--> click - enter. Switch to designated meet up district, auto run to the NPC, hit V so I don't click on the numerous people then hit enter.

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 05:20 AM // 05:20   #22
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Bah just did some Crush runs and I'd say it's a lot better than SD, BUT it takes so long to find a group it might not be worth it
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 05:23 AM // 05:23   #23
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I timed it by taking a few runs with someone I had been running with for 30+ runs, divided by time for all of them. It's doable in 20 seconds after aggro if you ball good enough. Changing districts took me about 5-10 seconds max and usually it was waiting for the Ranger. M--> click - enter. Switch to designated meet up district, auto run to the NPC, hit V so I don't click on the numerous people then hit enter.
I feel like something is off though. 5 seconds to switch dists, 5 seconds to run to carpenter each district so lets say 15 seconds to accept reward/get new quest/start again. Then 30 second dialogue ( it may be more but thats minimum) And lets say 20 seconds per quest finish.

At the minimum thats 1 min 5 seconds. And i believe the dialogue is actually over 35 seconds because usually when I time i get up to 37-38 by the time they turn red.I also feel like the 20 second total killing may be a little quicker than average time.

Im not saying your a liar I just feel like you did math wrong or something because that seems exceptionally quick.

But if you are positive you did the math right then idk, i guess i just cant figure somethin out xD because my personal best time was 1 min 50 seconds,timing from loading in to quest to loading into next quest.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 05:49 AM // 05:49   #24
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I've been giving away stacks to guildies as Christmas presents, so I guess that's been my main goal. ^_^ I used SD last year to max Vanguard on my necro, and this year she's going for Party and Sweets titles. I've already bought two sets of elite armor for a few other characters from the cash.

It's a fun run. I can play for an hour, then wander away and do other things. I actually look forward to it every year.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 06:14 AM // 06:14   #25
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I just met my goals: max Party Animal and Sweet Tooth. Methinks I'll still farm SD to line my pockets, but with just one account.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 07:08 AM // 07:08   #26
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Just getting my monk to max vanguard, only needed 8k when the event started.

Not going to farm it much more than that as I can't really say I like farming much.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 07:12 AM // 07:12   #27
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Okay well that may not be total true but tonight got 2 stacks of gifts in 1 hour. My stats are pretty much the same as Novawhiz.



Sorry
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 07:50 AM // 07:50   #28
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Did 300 presents over about 3 days and got bored. :/

Crush was fun for a few runs but it becomes mindless after.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 08:51 AM // 08:51   #29
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Dialogue is more like 40 seconds, I think.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 09:41 AM // 09:41   #30
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One stack a day.

However, Crush has become a guild favorite and is alot of fun for almost the same amount of gifts per SC. So I have included that in my one stack a day quota. I also still do Strength of Snow in between for shards and the 0.000002% chance of a mini polar bear(3yrs no bear).

SD is still faster, but how often do you get to farm gifts with a large group of friends? Add vent and its much more satisfying than a random pug or hero. Even with pugs(aggro says "Hi!") Crush can still be alot of fun and change the pace.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 10:08 AM // 10:08   #31
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Probably just going to max vanguard. I have almost nothing in my sweets and party titles, so it would take quite awhile to max them from the quest. I'd rather just do DoA and buy the points with money from that.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #32
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A stack of gifts and I'm burnt out for the day. I find it so damn boring. But wanna finish maxing party, at ~5k points right now, and still need to max drunkard and sweet tooth also.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 03:40 PM // 15:40   #33
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But if you are positive you did the math right then idk, i guess i just cant figure somethin out xD because my personal best time was 1 min 50 seconds,timing from loading in to quest to loading into next quest.
No way it is 1 min 50 seconds. I don't know how it takes you 5 seconds to switch districts and to to walk to Casey. If I tallied up all the gifts and the time I took including break + eating, it's 3.5 hours for 1600 gifts. That's about 7-8 gifts a minute. You get 10 for each time, so maximum 1.3 min or 1 min 20 seconds.

I mean I had a full meal, with soup and a nice long bathroom break. One of the 6 or 7 rangers I was with had to call in to work since he was snowed in so that's another 15-20 minutes.

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lol, 2-3 stacks takes like 1.5 hours with 2 accounts and maybe 3 hours with 1 account, not that tough.

My personal goal for presents is like 2 stacks a day but im not determined to get that.
I got 6 stacks in 3.5 hours, with PUG... NO dual client, with bathroom breaks + eating break.

EDIT: I did a run on my ele with a necro hero and it was less than 1 min total with me typing on here. 2 seconds to zone. 1<0.5 second to accept quest.

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 03:51 PM // 15:51   #34
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I mean I had a full meal, with soup and a nice long bathroom break.
Thank you for the update. We were all wondering.

On topic. I haven't yet been able to bring myself to do SD this year. It's like Raptor farming for me. I would rather have a root canal.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #35
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For the record, I timed the opening dialogue from when I saw the first line spoken to when the enemy team turns hostile and came out with 37.5 seconds on my cell phone stopwatch. Take from that what you will.

If you spent 20 minutes total for making your dinner, eating, and all your restroom breaks(it could be more or less, I figured 20 was fair), then you did the whole cycle in 1 minute 10 seconds every time for 160 times. I dunno, I just have a hard time believing that. From my experience, with SD the AI is extremely erratic and does and often doesn't ball up even when you do the same thing every time(because your own NPCs don't push up etc.)

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #36
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EDIT: I did a run on my ele with a necro hero and it was less than 1 min total with me typing on here. 2 seconds to zone. 1<0.5 second to accept quest.
idk how you are timing this, but i can garuntee you it takes more than 1 second to run to carpenter, even if you spawn right next to him it takes more than 1 second to run/accept/change dist, ok, changing dist might be 2 seconds, then <1 second to run/accept/start again?
I highly doubt that, just time how long it takes you from zone at end to zone and start.


And like the above post, i dont see how 1 min 10 seconds is possible for every run. dialogue is 37 seconds, to be safe. Lets say that it takes you 10 seconds to accept/start again (which is very quick) thats 47 seconds, that gives you 23 seconds to kill every one on the other team which is possible. But every single time???

I dont see how you could do that every time because even with a perfect ball it still takes a good 15-20 seconds to finish and when odd actions happen, it doesnt work too well and takes 25-30 seconds at least. I just dont see how you could pull that off with an avg time of 1 min 10 seconds

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Old Dec 21, 2010, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #37
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The snowballs stop once I max vanguard. Everything else turns into HoM weapons. Having done the math, I'm pretty sure I'll leave the quest with minimal ennui.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #38
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I try 74 runs a day so. i am working towards maxing sweet and party animal:S
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #39
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Right now I do a stack or so of gifts per day. My overall goal is to max my vanguard title, and get what money I can from sweets and booze.
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Old Dec 21, 2010, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #40
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how do you get 55 seconds? The dialogues alone at the beginning take 30-40 seconds, how can u get the reward/change dists in 15-25 seconds?
You can map travel as soon as you see the victory message. You shave off at least 15 secs per run doing that instead of waiting for the timer. Once you collect also map travel with "M" and double click. From time to time it will tell you that you are on the active district but the mouse map travel seems to work best for me.

1 stack of gifts per account (max 2) per hour is doable but you won't be able to keep up the 1.5 min runs all the time.
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